How are Abu Yazid al-Bistami's ecstatic sayings, such as "Glory be to me", to be understood?

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كيف تُفهم شطحات أبي يزيد البسطامي مثل «سبحاني»؟

Sayings such as "Glory be to me, glory be to me, how great is my state" are reported from Abu Yazid al-Bistami. Ibn 'Aqil held that whoever says such things deserves death; Ibn al-Jawzi said that if they are authentic the narrator may have misunderstood and he may have been quoting God, and called al-Junayd's reading of them as absorption in witnessing divine majesty "fables"; al-Sarraj rejected declaring him an unbeliever and reported that his family in Bistam did not know the story 1 2 3 4.

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The Early Abbasid Caliphate
Region
Persia & Central Asia · Levant & Iraq

Contested: This record includes matters on which scholars differ. The speaker's views are labelled as his, and other views are marked where no cited source yet exists.

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Overview

Sayings are reported from Abu Yazid al-Bistami that he spoke in states the Sufis call shath (ecstatic utterance), the best known being "Glory be to me, glory be to me, how great is my state". 1 Scholars disagreed over whether they are authentic, what they mean, and how their speaker is to be judged. This card sets out the views as their sources report them, beginning with Sunni scholars of the Hanbali school and then the Sufi views, each named, without deciding between them.

The report

Ibn al-Jawzi, in Talbis Iblis, relates with his chain from Tayfur the Younger, from his uncle, Abu Yazid's servant, that he heard him say "Glory be to me, glory be to me, how great is my state", and then: "Enough for me of myself, enough." 1 In the section on ecstatic sayings and claims he then gives other sayings attributed to him with chains through al-Sahlaki, Abu Nu'aym and others, among them that while circling the Ka'ba he saw the House circling him, that he was the Preserved Tablet, and that he was "all seven" of the Substitutes (abdal). 2 5

The view of Ibn 'Aqil (Hanbali)

Before the "Glory be to me" report, Ibn al-Jawzi quotes Ibn 'Aqil on the story that Abu Yazid said of the Fire that if he saw it he would put it out with the edge of his patched robe: whoever says this, "whoever he may be, is a heretic who must be killed", for making light of a thing is the fruit of denying it. 1 On the same page this is preceded by Ibn al-Jawzi's account of the fear of the Fire shown by angels, prophets and Companions, in answer to a claimant who made light of it. 1

The view of Ibn al-Jawzi (Hanbali)

Ibn al-Jawzi comments on the "Glory be to me" report: if it is authentic, perhaps the narrator did not understand, for Abu Yazid may have been mentioning God's glorification of Himself and said it as a quotation of God, not of himself. 1 He notes that al-Junayd interpreted it in some way, and that unless that interpretation comes back to this one "it is nothing"; after relating al-Junayd's interpretation he calls it "among the fables". 1 2 Of the other claims he has related he says: "As for the claims cited above, their ugliness is not hidden", and he answers another saying attributed to him about the punishment of the Fire on three grounds. 6

Al-Junayd's interpretation (a Sufi view)

Ibn al-Jawzi relates from Ja'far al-Khuldi that al-Junayd was told that Abu Yazid says "Glory be to me, glory be to me", and al-Junayd said that the man was absorbed in witnessing majesty and spoke of what absorbed him; God made him oblivious of seeing himself, so he witnessed only God and described Him. 2

The view of al-Sarraj (a Sufi view)

In al-Luma', Abu Nasr al-Sarraj gives a chapter to explaining phrases reported from Abu Yazid for which Ibn Salim at Basra used to declare him an unbeliever. 3 He heard Ibn Salim say in his circle that Pharaoh never said what Abu Yazid said: Pharaoh spoke his word recorded in Surat al-Nazi'at, and "lord" is a name given to creatures, as in "lord of the house", whereas subhan is a name that may be given to none but God. 3 Al-Sarraj asked him whether it was established for him that Abu Yazid's belief was like Pharaoh's: if he could not testify to what Abu Yazid believed, then declaring him an unbeliever fails, since the words may have had a preamble in which he was quoting God, just as if we heard a man recite the verse of Surat al-Anbiya' we would not doubt that he was reciting the Qur'an. 3

Al-Sarraj adds that he went to Bistam and asked members of Abu Yazid's family about the story, and they denied it, saying "We know nothing of that"; had it not spread among people and been written in books, he would not have bothered to mention it. 4 He says that Ibn Salim, for all his standing, went too far in attacking Abu Yazid, also declaring him an unbeliever for saying "I pitched my tent facing the Throne", and that he answered him that the scholars of his region seek blessing at Abu Yazid's grave and count him among the greatest worshippers and ascetics, so how could unbelief be believed of him on a report whose intent is unknown. 4

How the two accounts connect

Ibn al-Jawzi quotes the same debate between al-Sarraj and Ibn Salim, with his chain from 'Abd Allah ibn 'Ali al-Sarraj, including the possibility of quoting God and the denial by the people of Bistam. 2 The possibility Ibn al-Jawzi accepts for "Glory be to me" is thus close to al-Sarraj's answer; they differ in their judgement of Abu Yazid's other claims and of al-Junayd's interpretation. 1 2

Opinions on the question

The question: Judging the ecstatic sayings reported from Abu Yazid al-Bistami: their authenticity, their meaning, and the status of the one who said them.

First opinion · Sunni tradition (the museum's frame) · Sunni (Hanbali)Main reference

Whoever makes such claims is a heretic who must be killed: the view of Ibn 'Aqil as Ibn al-Jawzi quotes it

Ibn al-Jawzi quotes Ibn 'Aqil on the report that Abu Yazid said of the Fire that if he saw it he would put it out with the edge of his patched robe: whoever says this, whoever he may be, is a heretic who must be killed, for making light of a thing is the fruit of denying it.

Held by: ابن عقيل شيخ الحنابلة

Basis: Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) PDF p. 347

More opinions (4)

Sunni tradition (the museum's frame) · Sunni (Hanbali)Main reference

If "Glory be to me" is authentic, the narrator may not have understood and he may have been quoting God; al-Junayd's reading is rejected, and his other claims are ugly: the view of Ibn al-Jawzi

Ibn al-Jawzi relates with his chain from Abu Yazid's servant that he heard him say "Glory be to me, glory be to me, how great is my state", and then says: if this is authentic, perhaps the narrator did not understand, since he may have mentioned God's glorification of Himself and spoken it as a quotation of God, not of himself; he calls al-Junayd's interpretation "fables", relates other claims reported from Abu Yazid, and says that the ugliness of the claims he has quoted "is not hidden".

Held by: Ibn al-Jawzi

Basis: Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) PDF pp. 347-350

Sufi viewSecondary opinion

A Sufi view: the speech of a man absorbed in witnessing divine majesty: al-Junayd's interpretation as Ibn al-Jawzi reports it

Ibn al-Jawzi relates from Ja'far al-Khuldi that al-Junayd was told Abu Yazid says "Glory be to me, glory be to me", and replied: the man is absorbed in witnessing majesty and spoke of what absorbed him; God made him oblivious of seeing himself, so that he witnessed only God and described Him.

Held by: Al Junayd Ibn Muhammad

Basis: Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) PDF p. 348

Sufi viewSecondary opinion

A Sufi view: he may not be declared an unbeliever, for the phrase can be a quotation of God and his family did not confirm it: the view of Abu Nasr al-Sarraj

In al-Luma', al-Sarraj says he debated Ibn Salim at Basra when Ibn Salim said Pharaoh never said what Abu Yazid said, and told him: you cannot declare him an unbeliever unless you can testify to his belief, for the words may have had a preamble in which he was quoting God, as when we hear a man recite a verse in which God speaks of Himself; he went to Bistam and asked members of Abu Yazid's family, who denied the story; and the scholars of his region seek blessing at his grave and count him among the greatest worshippers and ascetics. Ibn al-Jawzi quotes the same debate from al-Sarraj.

Held by: Abu Nasr al-Sarraj al-Tusi

Basis: Abu Nasr al-Sarraj al-Tusi, al-Luma', ed. Muhammad Adib al-Jadir (Dar al-Fath li-l-Dirasat wa-l-Nashr) pp. 525-526 Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) PDF p. 348

Other viewOther opinion

His words are worse than Pharaoh's and entail unbelief: the view of Ibn Salim of Basra as al-Sarraj reports it

Al-Sarraj reports that Ibn Salim used to say in his circle at Basra that Pharaoh claimed to be lord, and 'lord' is a name that can be given to a creature, while Abu Yazid said "Glory be to me", and subhan is a name that may be given to none but God, so it entails unbelief; that he also declared him an unbeliever for saying "I pitched my tent facing the Throne"; and that, for all his standing, Ibn Salim went too far in attacking him.

Basis: Abu Nasr al-Sarraj al-Tusi, al-Luma', ed. Muhammad Adib al-Jadir (Dar al-Fath li-l-Dirasat wa-l-Nashr) pp. 525-526

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Bayazid al-Bistami· Talbis Iblis (The Devil's Delusion)· Kitab al-Luma' fi al-Tasawwuf

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Talbis Iblis (The Devil's Delusion)· Bayazid al-Bistami· Kitab al-Luma' fi al-Tasawwuf· Al-Risala al-Qushayriyya (The Epistle of al-Qushayri)· Stations and states (al-maqamat wa'l-ahwal)· Karamat (marvels of the friends of God)· Tasawwuf· Ghulam Khalil's trial of the Sufis in Baghdad

Sources

  1. Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) , p. 347
  2. Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) , p. 348
  3. Abu Nasr al-Sarraj al-Tusi, al-Luma', ed. Muhammad Adib al-Jadir (Dar al-Fath li-l-Dirasat wa-l-Nashr) , p. 525
  4. Abu Nasr al-Sarraj al-Tusi, al-Luma', ed. Muhammad Adib al-Jadir (Dar al-Fath li-l-Dirasat wa-l-Nashr) , p. 526
  5. Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) , p. 349
  6. Ibn al-Jawzi, Talbis Iblis, corrected and annotated by Muhammad Munir 'Abduh Agha al-Dimashqi, 2nd printing (Idarat al-Tiba'a al-Muniriyya, Egypt (Misr) 1347 AH / 1928) , p. 350
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