Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz's Debate with the Kharijites

مناظرة عمر بن عبد العزيز مع الخوارج

99 AH

In the caliphate of Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz, Shawdhab the Kharijite rose in al-Jazira with a band of the Muhakkima from Rabi'a and others. Umar sent to them Muhammad ibn al-Zubayr al-Hanzali and Awn ibn Abd Allah ibn Utba ibn Mas'ud with a letter 1. They sent back two men with them, one of Banu Shayban and the other whom the book describes as Abyssinian. Umar questioned them in his majlis at Khunasira, after searching them to make sure they carried no iron 2. He argued against them that Abu Bakr and Umar, whom the Kharijites take as their leaders, had sanctioned fighting the apostates and taking captives, and that Umar later returned the captives; that the people of Nahrawan, Kufa and Basra fought one another and some killed others; and then asked them whether cursing the people of sin is a required duty, and whether they could curse his own household and disown them when the religion is one 3. The Abyssinian said he had never heard an argument so clear and so easily grasped as Umar's, that he bore witness Umar was in the right, and that he disowned whoever had disowned Umar. The Shaybani said he would not presume to decide for the Muslims on a matter without first putting his view to them. Umar left; the Abyssinian stayed, received his stipend, and died fifteen days later; the Shaybani rejoined his companions and was killed with them after Umar's death 4.

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In the caliphate of Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz, Shawdhab the Kharijite rose in al-Jazira with a group of the Muhakkima. Umar sent two men to them with a letter, and a debate took place in his session at Khunasira. 5

The delegation

The Kharijites sent two men with them, one of the Banu Shayban, and the book describes the other as having an Abyssinian in him. Umar searched them before the session, lest they had iron with them. 6

Umar's argument

According to the book, he reminded them that Abu Bakr and Umar, whom the Kharijites follow, had approved the fighting of the apostates and the taking of their children captive; and that the people of Nahrawan, Kufa and Basra had fought one another. Then he asked them whether it is lawful to curse the people of sin, and whether they could bear to curse the people of his house and disavow them. 7

The outcome

The Abyssinian said, according to the book, that he testified that Umar was upon the truth. The Shaybani said that he would not act against the Muslims by an affair without putting his word before them. The Abyssinian remained, and Umar gave him his stipend, and he died fifteen days later. The Shaybani rejoined his companions and was killed with them after Umar's death. 8

The account is the book's own and has not been compared with another source. The book does not give the year of the debate, which falls within 99–101 AH.

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The Building of the Fortress of Masisa· The Basra Dar al-Imara Saga· Death of Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz· Umar's Expulsion of the Christians of Najran· The Founding of al-Ramla· Habib's Sind, the Kings' Conversion, and the Muhallabids' End· Isma'il ibn Abdallah and Umar II's Mission to the Berbers· Al-Jarrah ibn Abdallah's Governorship of Armenia

Sources

  1. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p. 267-268
  2. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p. 268
  3. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p. 268-270
  4. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p. 270
  5. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p.267-268
  6. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p.268
  7. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p.268-270
  8. The Umayyad State — Bakr Muhammad Ibrahim Bakr (1st ed., Markaz al-Raya lil-Nashr wal-I'lam, Cairo 2002) , p.270
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